A message from Doc over at Maingun

I got this via email from both WiscoDave and Doc & Terri (Maingun, dealer of Patriot Plate Body Armor) this morning. Now this is how Patriots conduct business – honestly and with integrity.

There has been a lot of consternation on the net & blogs regarding the “Responsible Body Armor Possession Act”  HR5344, introduced by Rep Mike Honda (D – California) on 31 July.  The bill would prohibit civilians from buying or owning armor (including vests, shields and other items) rated Type III or higher on the NIJ’s penetration resistance scale.  (Their exact wording, not mine.)

This is a typical BS style of bill introduced by those who wish to 1) insure that their special class is exempt from a law, 2) infringe on the liberty of free Americans, and 3) package it with a title that sounds “nice”.  This is the standard MO of those who love the state more than the individual.

This has virtually zero chance of passing.  Zero.  It would have to pass the House first, then pass the Senate.  It’s not going to happen.  Honda either feels like he has to pander to his base for the fall election, or he is a complete idiot.

What bothers us right now is the acts of some of our competitors who are using this bill to scare people into panic buys of body armor.

We’re on the mailing list of some of our competition, and the email blasts trying to scare folks have filled my inbox.  We were selling at a gunshow in Greenville, SC this past weekend (the single best show we attend by the way – next show is in October!).  Other vendors selling body armor were telling folks that they needed to buy before the ban comes into effect.

Sure, we want to sell Patriot Plate –  it helps pay our bills.  We started Patriot Plate in order to get quality body armor into the hands of folks that needed it, all at a reasonable price.  We don’t want folks to make panic purchases right now if they have other things that they need to get for their preps.

We’re not going to try to cash in on a panic that doesn’t exist.  We’re not going to artificially raise our prices and take advantage of folks.

Any price increases will be due to increased costs by our supplier, not merely because you can take advantage of folks.  And there are no price increases on the horizon, according to our supplier. Most of you know us (or certainly of us).  We’re on the same team.

Please share this with friends who are considering a panic buy.  We all remember the “crisis” with the black guns and magazines.

We all do our fellow patriots a service by sharing the truth.
-Doc & Terri, Maingun Military Surplus

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10 Responses to A message from Doc over at Maingun

  1. jay352 says:

    Now that is straight up. I already pimp their product whenever I can, that just makes it more so.

  2. gamegetterII says:

    It would be nice to know exactly which vendors were claiming that people needed to buy body armor before the ban kicks in,and using scare tactics in an attempt to increase sales.

    That way we would know who not to do business with.

    Those using the bill to justify price increases,and scare people into buying their product are as bad as all those who bought up ammo and resold it at gun shows for 20% more than they paid for it-making the ammo “shortage” worse.

    • Wirecutter says:

      20% more??!! I was seeing mark-ups of 100% and prices still haven’t gotten completely down to pre-Sandy Hook. A lot of the blame also went to customers that were willing to pay those outrageous prices. Demand dictates prices and all that….. Granted, they were afraid the shit would be banned, but that in itself is a great argument for stocking up before the shortage, not during.

      But I think the vendors he was speaking of were local to that area, you know, gunshops that bought space at the show.

      • gamegetterII says:

        What I saw here in Ohio was a lot of people waiting at the local Wal-Mart or Gander Mtn with a bunch of their friends for the ammo delivery to arrive,they would go into the store,and buy up almost all of the ammo-at already inflated prices,such as $20.00 for a box of 20 rounds of American Eagle .223 or 5.56 then sell at at a local gun show for $25.00 or so. The 20% was just a guess. The same people would also buy up all the .308 or 7.62 for $24.00-$26.00 a box,then re-sell it for $30.00 a box.
        This was after prices had already been inflated by panic buying.
        Sure,there were guys selling 20 year old surplus 5.56 ammo made in some former soviet union country for $1.00-1.50 a round-but at least here there weren’t all that many.
        Around here,.223 or 5.56 is available,and going for under 50 cents a round again.
        Military surplus FMJ 7.62 can be had for $16.00 a box of 20.

        Hopefully-you are right and it was local guys trying to scare people into buying “before the ban”

        The lack of common sense in these situations is astounding.
        It takes less than 5 minutes to find out that such bills have an almost zero chance of passing.

        • Wirecutter says:

          Yeah, the same thing was going on here. Walmart gets their ammo on Mondays and I swear, that shit never hit the shelves. It was gone that quick. I long suspected that Walmart employees were calling their friends (or people that were slipping them a few bucks) and letting them know what to expect.
          I’m paying about 30 cents a round now online and with flat rate shipping, it’s still a pretty good deal.
          Now if we could just figure out what the fuck is up with 22LR…..

          • SemperFi, 0321 says:

            A few months ago at a local sporting goods chain store, I asked the same question about .22 ammo. The owner told me due to the large volume of new gun sales and owners, more people are shooting and that’s where all the ammo is going. And I call bullshit, yes, people are hoarding and no one shoots much like we used to, so I don’t think we see more ammo going out the door, there’s less coming in, period!
            And newbies don’t use reloading components that fast either.

  3. anony2 says:

    How about everyone just man up, buy what you want/need and then shut the fuck up to authorities.
    Use a one time debit card, send it to some dead relative/friend across the county and nobody fukn knows you have it, how’s that sound???
    This whining, sniveling and hand wringing over whether or not you might be getting in trouble is for little kids, not grown up patriots who should be working on their 3rd or 4th set of gear.
    Start educating yourself on how to do business under the table and stop asking for fukn permission, you won’t get it anyway. OR, learn to make good headshots and get it later, without any holes in it!

  4. Leigh says:

    The difference here is Doc is providing a service, the others are hawking a product.

    I’ve never had an issue buying a good product at a fair price. I do have an issue when someone is trying to gaff me. To be able to purchase the raw materials, process the plates, cover overhead, and make a couple bucks to be able to keep the doors open… I’m good with that.

    I’ve shown a few people the MainGun site for plates and carriers, and they have been absolutely blown away by the prices – they actually could not believe it. I need to get a set myself before Benito Cuomolini decrees them illegal….and under his friggin’ unSAFE act, they may be already.
    Fuck him and Obama!

    Leigh
    Whitehall, NY

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