Make and calibers anybody?


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  1. Dan says:

    Looks like an old German drilling, my guess is 20 gauge, .22, and .30-06. I find it pretty cool that the .22 chamber looks like some kind of insert in what was originally a 12 gauge shotgun barrel. To my eye it looks bigger than the right barrel. Cool piece.

  2. riverrider says:

    most likely a one-of conversion of a custom euro gun made by a one man shop. the right barrel is a 22rf conversion of the original shotgun barrel, the bottom one is rimmed like a 30-30 or 303. engraving looks spanish but can’t be sure. that’s my swag at it.

  3. Sarthurk says:

    I worked at a gun store back in another lifetime, and our gunsmith flat refused to mount a scope on a brand new drilling some filthy rich customer just bought. He went and started working independently after that.

    Oh, 12, .22, and I’m guessing 8 mm Mauser, but could be ’06 or something similar.

  4. Joe Bush says:

    12ga, 8mm Mauser, 22lr???

  5. Neil R says:

    Every dreiling I ever saw was 16ga over 9.7×72, but I found a page with a guy that knows more about it than I:
    “Drillings, or “dreiling” (the German word “drei” means “three” so “Dreiling” means triplet—the form “Drilling” normally only used for triplet births and the drilling gun) normally consists of two matching shotgun barrels and a rifle barrel (German: Normaldrilling, common drilling), but may cover a much broader range of shapes and configurations
    Two matching rifle barrels and one shotgun barrel
    Two rifle barrels of different calibers (typically one rimfire and one centerfire) and one shotgun barrel
    Three matching shotgun barrels
    Three matching rifle barrels
    Since drillings were generally made by small manufacturers, each maker would pick whichever layout they preferred, or whatever layout the customer ordered. The most common layout was a side-by-side shotgun with a centerfire rifle barrel centered on the bottom. A similar arrangement of a side-by-side shotgun with a rifle barrel centered on top, generally a .22 caliber rimfire or .22 Hornet, was also fairly common.”

    It’s certainly cool, that’s for sure

    • crazyeighter says:

      Neil, is Germany one of those places where mere civilians can’t have anything chambered in a “military” cartridge? I’m asking this because of Sarthurk & Joe Bush’s “8mm” swag…

  6. bogsidebunny says:

    Most likely German. 12 gauge, 410 gauge & .22 cal. or their European counterparts.

  7. Chuck says:

    I’ve seen double barreled 20 gauge shotguns with a 30/30 under they were made by, “Drilling” & were pretty hi-dollar guns…. I think the .22 insert in your picture is homemade.


  8. ignore amos says:

    Drillings! You’re talking some real money there.

  9. rightwingterrorist says:

    The bottom one I can’t make out, but possibly a 410

  10. rightwingterrorist says:

    Then again, I would think that’s a German Dreiling.
    So, the corresponding mm equivalent would be applicable.

  11. kimberwarrior45 says:

    This is a trilling (a three barrel drilling), popular in Europe. From the engraving this is probably from German or Austria but maker would be very difficult from just this one picture. There were many small manufactures in Europe before WWII. Usually consisting of the very popular on the Continent 16 gauge double barrel with a center fire rifle round underneath. This one appears to have a 8×57 rifle cartridge with one shotgun barrel sleeved for the 22lr round. The sleeve appears to be ‘aftermarket’

  12. Milo Mindbender says:

    If forced to guess, I would say 12 gauge, 22 long rifle, and 30-30 or a similar rimmed cartridge.

  13. Anonymous says:

    I’m guessing 12 gauge left barrel, .22lr right barrel in Kreighoff insert barrel, and some metric ‘deer rifle’ cartridge in the under barrel. I think 3 barrelled firearms were called drillings, I think that is a box lock (top barrel tab locking into receiver). I’ll bet those scope mounts cost a mint too.

    Definitely not your American rifle, some Euro dude wearing Leiderhosen and feathered cap drinking Schnapps is likely the photographer :^).

  14. SemperFi, 0321 says:

    That is a European made drilling (Drei) in probably 12ga x12ga x ?.
    I can’t enlarge it enough to make out the centerfire headstamp, but it is more than likely a rimmed metric centerfire cartridge, of 5.6mm size or larger (an R is visible after the blurry caliber number) .250 Savage and .30-30 were two popular American cartridges. The scope is set up for the bottom barrel.
    What is really unique is the 12 ga barrel adapter in the right side barrel, it has a sleeve inserted for 22 rimfire. Quite a piece of engineering.

  15. Dick Summers says:

    Three barrels and fancy engraving. I’ll guess Drilling.

  16. A German drilling, Drie meaning 3 in German. The shotshell says 20 on it. A Rimfire,probably 22LR. Can’t make out the headstamp on the centerfire.
    This combo is a “cross eyed” drilling, since it has two rifle barrels of different calibers instead of two shotgun barrels with one rifle barrel. The crosseyed is harder to manufacture, since both rifle barrels have to be regulated (the original meaning of the term in the 2nd Amendment) to fire at the same point of aim.

  17. Jason says:

    Elephant gun, should be side by side .600 nitro express and the third bottom should be .577 cal. Looks like the right upper cartridge was modified to hold a .30 cal. 22 would look to small next to the 600 Nitro.

  18. taminator013 says:

    I’d guess that it was originally S/S 16 ga with one now converted to .22LR and the bottom barrel being a 5.6mm x 52mmR (.22 Savage Hi-Power). It’s also possible that in that age firearm that the bottom barrel might be a 9.3×74mmR.

    • taminator013 says:

      As to make, I would guess that it’s a J. P. Sauer boxlock. Too bad that the aesthetics are messed up with the scope, but it’s probably been in a family for a couple generations and still being used on the dark continent for anything from birds to varmints to plains game. It looks like it’s had many decades of hard use……………….

  19. Rex says:

    It’s a Kreighoff trumpf drilling; similar to this:

    20ga, .22LR, and 8mm Mauser…

  20. jay352 says:

    My image zoom clearly says 16 Ga.

    • SemperFi, 0321 says:

      Good, so shotgun shell is -N-16-N-
      I believe bottom cartridge says S&B C and bottom line ?x?R (R signifying Rimmed cartridge).
      Anyone with better eyes?

      • taminator013 says:

        Okay, I could finally read the bottom. It’s a 7X65R.

      • Anonymous says:

        S&B may be Sellior Berlot, a European ammunition manufacturer. No idea what the C means though. The 7×65 below sez it fires a 140 grain bullet at approximately 2700 fps. Sort of a longer .260 Remington, a good deer rifle cartridge.

  21. madminute says:

    the best of ….!

  22. icebuffalo says:

    Looks like the damage to the right barrel prompted a gunsmith to insert a secondary barrel, most likely . 22, ingenious

    • SemperFi, 0321 says:

      It’s not damaged, it was made that way.
      The screw tightens the chamber insert into the barrel. Probably a helical screw that spreads a metal band against the chamber wall.
      European gunmaking leaves American guns in the stone age.

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