When the shit hits the fan

For quite a while I got into reading TEOTWAWKI novels and I read quite a few. Some of them were very good and most were entertaining but I was reading them as novels – works of fiction. They were written as such, were intended as such and I read them as such.
They all had a fairly common theme – the main characters all knew somebody that had a lot of land and had prepared for the the shit that was going down – tons of food, power supplies, pallets of ammo, plus there was at least one SF trained badass in the group. You know what I mean. But they were works of fiction.
Seriously, how many of you know somebody that has a highly defensible sizable piece of land with several years of food and ammo on hand with an SF badass just hanging around willing to lend a hand?
I don’t – and I spent almost half of my life around and in the military, have been trying to stockpile ammo and food for several years and recently moved to a small piece of property in rural Tennessee. What I’ve ended up with is maybe 6 months worth of lean rations, a few thousand rounds of ammo, a couple of acres and the very few badass soldiers I’ve known are either elderly or dead. Fact of life, people get old no matter how fucking tough they were in their 20s, 30s and even 40s. Hell, I was considered a badass in my younger years but I’m on the near side of 60 now. Those days are gone, Bro. My running and gunning days are gone – I can’t recall the last time I ran five two miles. Okay, I walked a half mile at a swift pace the other day, but that was pushing it. It’s been 15 years since I’ve heard the crack of a bullet going past my head.

I’m not alone here. I realize that most of my readers are older than I am. The main thing we have in common is a memory of the things used to be when we were youngsters and a fervent desire for a return to that time. And we’re willing to die to restore that for our grandkids. Our kids were lost – we lost them when we weren’t paying attention to the bullshit they were being taught in school, but we caught on when we realized the difference the grandbabies were taught, common core, socialism and all that. I may be wrong there, I never had any kids but I do have grandbabies through a second marriage and that’s when I caught on.

We have a III% movement, supposedly our hope and saviors – in their eyes, anyways.
Fuck that. 99.9% of organized III Percenters are a fucking joke whether it’s the Georgia Security Force or the III Percent Society or 99% of the militias in the United States today. A National Guard or Army Reserve unit can roll their asses up without a single loss on their end and we’re not even gonna talk about a regular army line infantry unit. Most of these wannabe commandos have never been in any kind of a conflict since their last fistfight in high school. You’ve got people like Kerodin that consider themselves to be leaders, yet he has never had a shot fired at him in anger and has zero military, tactical or outdoors experience. He claims to own a highly defensible mountaintop with supplies but apparently he’s never heard that air power automatically negates that. Not only that, he evidently doesn’t realize that water flows downhill – you need a source of water to survive more than a week and mountaintops don’t have a year-round supply of water. A week long siege in the summer and he’s done and that’s without the federales dropping a single fucking bomb or firing a shot.

Survivalists – the father of my wife’s grandkids lives in town but has a ‘plan’ to hide out in the woods and survive. Who’s woods? Tennessee has very little public land and I seriously doubt any landowners are going to allow any squatters to take up their precious resources. I know I won’t – you won’t be shooting my deer, squirrels or rabbits. That’s MY food. And if I catch you raiding my garden I will shoot you in the fucking head.

The last two scenarios are fantasies, not plans. Fan-ta-sies.
Story lines from fictional books – that’s what the III percent movement of today is made of.

Strength is in determination and resources, not fantasies. Stockpile as many supplies as you can, consolidate them with neighbors and stick together. Form Neighborhood Protection Groups.

Be prepared to hunker down for 90 days. Those are your best plans. Fend for yourself and don’t expect anybody to ride to the rescue, particularly the III Percenters – hell, after spending years as one I’m convinced they’re going to be the marauders, not the saviors they claim to be. What fucking difference does it make who’s control you’re going to be under? Control is control.

Here’s the deal: Buy 90 days worth of rations – they don’t have to be the fancy survival bucket meals with desserts from walmart, just get 90 days worth of high calorie foodstuffs. Lay in 90 days worth of fuel – gasoline, wood for the winter, that sort of thing. Stockpile a few thousand rounds of ammo. Buy a water purification system, Sawyer has good deals. Get to know your neighbors, be willing to share resources and form Neighborhood Protection Groups where each neighbor shares the resources they have and you’ll be fine.

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36 Responses to When the shit hits the fan

  1. lineman says:

    The biggest thing is being in an area that those around you have the same mindset and having the resources to feed everyone once the 90 day supply runs out… Be around those who are self sufficient with a can do attitude, be in a place that has plenty of water, a decent growing seasin (even though that can be negated if you have a greenhouse) a good supply of game, an area that is defendable from the outside, a decent amount of domestic animals and enough plant life to feed them, enough trees to heat everyone’s home for the winter, far away from a large urban center, etc…If you don’t have that then you need to be getting off your ass and look at moving to an area that has it…Ive been offering to help people relocate to my area since it has all that and a few have inquired about it and a few are in the process of moving but I know there is still a shit ton of people out there that don’t have it and need to be getting the move on…Trump gave us time and it’s up to us to be using it wisely…Great Post Brother….
    PS on the Kerodin deal I tried telling him that place was a joke but he an Eastern city boy knew best…One man with a can of gasoline and a box of matches could defeat that place…

    • Wirecutter says:

      Yeah, I moved away from the city to an area that you’ve described – rural with everybody thinking the same way I do. Lots of cattle, lots of crops, water isn’t a problem. The nearest big city is 50 miles away and any marauders have to get through a shitload of independent rednecks before they reach me. A band of ten thousand of them will be whittled down to a half dozen before they get here.
      The 90 day thing is to get you through a winter and/or the early crops come in or until the unrest is settled.

      The post wasn’t intended as a slam on Kerodin but he was one of the best examples I could come up with as far as a fantasy goes. Unfortunately there’s a lot of folks out there that has his mindset and all they’re doing is setting themselves up for some major suckage.

  2. Unforgiven says:

    Where I live, there used to be a lot of moonshiners. The community knew who they were and had ways of communicating (a gunshot fired in the air from that lady that lives at the intersection) that Revenuers/strangers were coming. When community is close, it is strong. The old timers remember how to send out an alarm without internet or cell phones. You all, help the elderly and the widows in your area, learn everyones family histories, become a tight knit community. Store preps not just to feed yourself but to help others as well. Strong family and community are the antithesis of government control.

  3. singlestack says:

    The III%ers around here are all copsuckers. I classify them as mobile resupply units.

  4. Scott C. says:

    Brav-fucking-o post. Someone finally shared the obvious.

  5. Worker says:

    The best ‘we’ can do if the shit does come down (whenever, however or otherwise) is to have a strong trust worthy community – the whole going it alone mind set will get you and yours killed quickly (depending on your personal area). Good to lay in a good store of everything possible (budget depending) and be willing to shoot someone if necessary (most NEVER have done this) and otherwise be able to provide food (garden, storage and otherwise) but without a support system, you and yours are done – period.

    • Wirecutter says:

      I think in my area it can be done with very little if any bloodshed (for which I am thankful) because of the kind of folks we have around here. People here look out for one another and when help is needed, it’s given.

  6. Lynn says:

    I used to read those fantasy books all the time while doing deliveries from far away places to pass the time. I downloaded them first. There are bits and pieces of tips n tricks in them but you would need to be a multi-billionaire to do what the guys int he stories do. Here is a good link to quite a few, in fact Angry American and Lights out were posted here first as they were writing the chapters.


  7. BiblicalViolence says:

    Hollow macho postulation won’t have me remove my Nyberg flag from my armor as in respect to the late, great, Mike Vanderboegh.

    How about enlightening me as to your supposed “AO” so I don’t have to worry about Area Of Interest overlap and we can avoid embarrassing highschool grade drama.

    Just as the military has its valor thieves, the liberty movement has its same. Kerodine, GSF, etc are all our “posers” which is exactly why I have the Mike V Nyberg on the carrier: to EARN it when it hits the fan. I know there’s readers here who legitimately train with their trusted own, who subscribe to S. Culper and have an intelligence cell. I know there are readers here who are “doing” for the better of their own, their communities, to be better prepared for what’s on the horizon. It’s good to acknowledge that not everyone that wears a Gadsden or III is a good guy, the same with military and LEO but if the target isn’t identified and verified, that kill will never leave the communities’ minds eye as a murder and in one press of a trigger, the liberty movement may be extinguished there.

    It takes more than beans, bullets and bandaids and attitude to retake what we can for the sake of coming generations to be free. It’ll take a unanimous movement away from the tyranny we have today and words and deeds feed public concurrence (at best I imagine small outcroppings in some states). Be careful not to take that away from some of us that have worked and sacrificed much over something simple as a patch via someone’s personal opinion on a internet blog (meant with respect Wirecutter).

    I live free. I’ll die free. Hopefully it’s not from blue on blue.

    • Wirecutter says:

      Understand that I still have a III on my back window and a III plate on the front of my truck and I wear a III on my hat. It’s not the ideals that I’m against, it’s the way those ideals have been perverted by organized resistance which goes completely against the original concept.
      As I stated in my ‘I’m Done‘ post (opens in a new tab) last month, I’m giving up on the organized part, not my principles.

  8. =T. Wrangler= says:

    Great post Kenny.

    Well I still live in the city but expect to rectify that someday. Semi-retired now- reduced income and rising expenses causing delay. (Thanks, barry.)

    “Duty Now for the Future.”
    I have been keeping an eye on recent political developments. I doubt there is much danger of an organized “event” in this neighborhood.
    If a disturbance should break out while I am away, my first concern would be to get home. So I keep a get-home bag in my vehicle in case I have to hoof it.
    There is no chance of bugging out from here so I plan to shelter in place until the excitement dies down.
    At home, my preps include food, water, cooking gear, medicine, first aid, hardware and supplies, and food for the HouseCat. Also consumables such as terlet paper and Sour Mash.
    Camping and hunting gear may come in handy.
    The house is a secure as I can reasonably make it. I have water filtration,a generator and an invertor. I am aware the gennie might attract attention.
    Presently I can get by for a month or two, but things might get tight after that. Working to improve supplies of canned and dry food.
    My support group includes local cops and motivated civilians. In case communications are interrupted we have set up a central location for meeting and messages.

    Not as spry as I once was, and no longer think I am bulletproof, invincible or particularly blessed.
    What I have learned:
    Experience, good equipment, a backup plan, (sometimes an airtight alibi) and a trusted companion will increase your odds.
    I am a firm believer in keeping a low profile. Let somebody else attract attention. Avoid commotion. Be polite, Be considerate. Use your goddamn turn signal.
    Take “expert” advice with a grain of salt. This applies especially to the internet, and youtube in particular. (I am no expert.)
    Shitheads per square inch: If you live in a highly populated area you will be exposed to more shitheads. For that reason you might want to avoid ghettoes etc. Small towns also have their share of shitheads who will notice strangers. This includes cops. Your out of state license plate is a dead giveaway, See low-profile note above.
    Watch your Six.
    Listen to old-timers: they didn’t get old by being stupid. (RIP, Dad)
    Luck may play a part in gaining experience without getting killed in the process. But luck is no substitute for preparation.

    I am no spring chicken. So far my luck has held out.

    • Wirecutter says:

      Your out of state license plate is a dead giveaway

      It goes a step further here – in Tennessee your license plate is stamped with your county of registration.

      • Grandpa says:

        …same as in Georgia and Alabama, your county tag office sells state plates for your county. Now out west, and soon to head north; I don’t concern myself with valid plates from my soon to be former state.
        Great post, Ken; and food for thought in the comments. And brother Lineman… I guess like I figured, I’ll be coming north in the snow. (of course – nothing is gonna be easy for me, keeps me prayerful and focused on God) The good part is that I am going north, lol.
        Keep all of us in prayers, it will be loud and ugly I think.

  9. somedude says:

    I asked an ole timer, what he thought about the depression? his reply, what depression we were always poor. put things in new perspective, one area people are jumping out of windows another areas it is just like every other day. Netflicks has a survival show, a few guys bailed out over dirty water, eat’n tadpools/crabs, a cold night ( no frost 32+f ) and we are talk’n sub 48 hours into the test. my rule of thumb, yourself, your family, your neighbors, your community and the 3 Ps. produce, preserve, protect.

  10. Woody says:

    My two cents on this is buy your long term foodstuff in cash far from base. Lately there have been articles about cities/counties data mining. If in King’s county in Washington state can send letters to people about pet licences, the emergency dept knows who is stashing food. A FEMA director was published about 2 years ago saying if you have preps and don’t share during an emergency “You were selfish” and agreements about failing to prep didn’t matter.

    • Wirecutter says:

      Good point, but let me throw this in:
      With a once a month paycheck, we do our shopping at the beginning of the month and we hit places like Sam’s Club where you have no choice but to buy in bulk. When you buy by the case, you’re bound to have leftovers, so that goes into our stores.
      Another thing I cannot stress enough is to buy a pressure canner and learn how to can. Even if you don’t garden there are farmer’s markets everywhere – pay cash, can the stuff and nobody knows what you have. Canning supplies around here are sold in corner markets. Even jars – I buy mine at yard sales so there’s no data trail.

      • pigpen51 says:

        I have to ask. Is canning really that much of a cost savings, given that you have to buy not only the produce, but also the canning lids, which have gotten kind of pricey lately? I mean, I know that quality and all is better, perhaps, but when the sales are on, we can get vegetables 2 for a dollar, and in Sam’s Club we can do pretty good as well. Growing up, my mom always canned, but she didn’t use a pressure canner, which of course is not recommended for much of the things she did, but it is what it is. For my situation, I just don’t know if it is worth it.

        • Wirecutter says:

          The jars and bands are a one time investment and the lids are fairly cheap. The real savings come in if you garden (you can only eat so many green beans in a week) or if you buy your vegetables in bulk which is a lot cheaper than buying them even in discount stores. Yes, there are other supplies you have to buy like canning salt and pickling, but buy those in small quantities throughout the year and it’s not that big a deal.
          Water bath canning is fine for high acidic foods like tomatoes but for other foods (especially meats) you really need a pressure canner to make sure the bacteria is killed off.

          • lineman says:

            Tattler Lids are reusable so you only have to buy them once also…

          • DanG says:

            I have two pressure canners that figure into my plan. Much of my food stock is in the freezers. If we lose power for extended time, those canners will work over an open fire just fine. I figure to can it as it thaws.
            I also have a genset and I know how to make it run on wood smoke. It will run my well and welder, air compressor, etc. I have great neighbors to share resources and skills with. Livestock, wildlife and fishing is abundant within a half-mile. The climate here in N. Fla. is ideal for veggie production too.
            I agree with the guy above who likes low profile as a defense. My home is hidden from any road and I pay green cash for anything that might attract attention, like ammo. I’m about as ready as I’m gonna get in the unlikely event that any of this actually happens.

        • fjord says:

          The process of home canning and putting food by is not just for cost savings. With today’s automation and commercial food production (done by less than 1% of the population) yes, you can go and buy 2 cans/$1, but you are assuming the risk that there will always be this level of food production, that there will always be JIT trucking re-stocking of stores, sam’s clubs, etc. When you take into consideration the energy requirements of home canning and labor, then no, it’s probably not ‘savings’.

          Sometimes its for quality over quantity.

          Kenny says, “Strength is in determination and resources, not fantasies.”.

          Can I also add that skills, knowledge (and humility) and a survival mindset are also necessary.

          If an EMP struck tomorrow, you might have 40 days of food on hand, but you aren’t re-filling those commercially produced one time use only cans with food, that you suddenly realize you don’t know how to produce anyway, when those 40 days are up.

          I don’t know what your situation is, but learning a skill is never a bad thing. The more assets you can bring to the table, the more valuable you are to your tribe.

        • cavguy says:

          dehydration is cheaper way to put up. must be crunch dry the vac in jar with ox absorber. some stuff we can some we dry. start now pigpen. I can do both off grid its easy.

  11. Jim Jerzycke says:

    Words of wisdom from Kenny!

    When we get out of Kommifornia we’ll be going to an area where we already know a group of 25~30 “good people”. And since the youngest son has married into them, we get treated like family whenever we go there. I sure doesn’t hurt that I’ve helped them fix stuff whenever we go there, and I’ve showed my chops as both a mechanic, and electrical wizard. I might not be a grade A carpenter, but I can follow directions, and know my way around tools very well.

    If I’m too old to help raise a barn, I have the skills to make damn sure all their tools are properly sharpened and in good condition.

    And if I’m considered too old to go on patrol or man the perimeter, I can handle communications, and help the armorer.

    My wife was already kind of a “mini-prepper” when I met her, although she was into it for earthquake preparedness. So I got zero grief when I stocked up on food, ammo, water, first aid, and other minimum preps.

    The place were going to is 70 miles away from the nearest “Big City”, and although it’s a ‘college town’, the college was an A&M school for many years, and still teaches a lot of Ag stuff besides the usual liberal arts stuff. That means a lot of farm kids go there, much like the community college and university I went to decades ago.

    No, it’s not the “American Redoubt” that we all hear soooo much about, but it’s pretty rural with residents that have family lines going back almost 200 years.

    I know we’ll pretty much fit right in, and I’ll still have to pitch in as much as I can if TSHTF, but we won’t be an unwanted burden on anyone else.

    • Wirecutter says:

      we won’t be an unwanted burden on anyone else

      And that’s the point of the post – I don’t have cattle but I’ve got a few acres of land that’s fenced. Now my neighbors have cattle but no real garden land. I’ll swap produce for cattle, I’ll herd cattle for beef, I’ll do whatever my neighbors need me to do and they’ll do the same for me.

  12. fred says:

    Wirecutter, I respected you previously. My common sense meter for you is now pinned on maximum. What a sensible, cut to the chase, dose of reality. The world is now too small, too interconnected, & largely made up of out-of-shape, untrained, inexperienced pussies like me to deal with any serious ‘ end times ‘ event. And that assessment assumes that only the weapons, tactics & tools we know to exist come against us. Us commoners are at least 50 years behind in technology that governments have in use right now, maybe more. Sonic weapons, ”voice of god” electronics, biowarfare, cloaking devices, HAARP, etc., we would be helpless against. Basic precautions seem reasonable, but busting your wallet for exotics is likely a waste of time. But what do I know, I’m just a clueless pussy. fred

    • Wirecutter says:

      Why, thank you, Fred!

      • fred says:

        And I just turned 60, got you by a few. My Dad was at Pearl Harbor on December 7th. His stories of his 9 years in the South Pacific were downright scary. He described his time on the USS Dobbin while at sea as ” 99% total boredom & 1% sheer terror ” during Kamikaze attacks. I knew damn well I wasn’t a ‘chip off the old block ‘ that could remotely compare to his ability. I content myself with keeping an eye on the family (large one), kind of my duty as the eldest son. Most of the family is clueless, witless & believes the world is just fucking peachy the way it is. Oh well, maybe only the worst fucking Libtards will be killed. Kudos to you. I love your twisted humor, & your penchant for using the full range of swear words & other inappropriate language / insinuations. I’m sure the snowflakes won’t use your blog as a ” safe space.” Should my ”investment” work out, I’d love to buy you ANY man portable gun as thanks for years of entertainment you’ve provided. CROSS YOUR FINGERS, dude, & hope I win. fred

  13. Johnny O' says:

    Thanks for the post Wirecutter.
    I’m on the younger side of your audience at 34, and I find it very comforting to hear (relatively) simple ways to survive in a SHTF scenario. I have young kids and money is tight so preps for an extended time is tough, but you do what you can. I don’t have the expendable funds to keep up with all the trendy training, but I’m trying where I can. I think the best part is realizing that I don’t have to be responsible for everything, but can rely on a good community to share the burden is the biggest takeaway. We recently moved to a pretty rural area with a lot of good people and I now feel better about our future. Whatever lies ahead.

    • Wirecutter says:

      Just remember, you get what you give.
      Try to spend an extra 20 bucks a week on canned goods. They don’t have to be name brand groceries, but buy something. Lay in a supply of rice and beans, a couple pounds of salt, some sugar, flour, dehydrated milk and eggs, that sort of thing – it’ll add up faster than you know it.

  14. H says:

    Bill Jordan on survival planning. Not sure if like it myself. But a couple-three lessons there if a feller was of a mind to pay it heed.


  15. warhorse says:

    thanks artie good to know where you stand! there are some of us out here who follow the original 3% concept. mike’s concept. leaderless resistance. 4th gen warfare. but hey, go ahead, shoot at us. the feds love blue-on-blue.

    kerodin may be doing everything in his power to poison the well, but there are a lot of us who have already filled our canteens long before that shitbird even knew where the well was. fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

    I have been in the militia movement since 1995. there have been a lot of wannabees. a lot of charlatans. a lot of standoffs. some of us have learned, obviously most haven’t.

    standoffs don’t work. fixed positions don’t work. they never have and they never will. you can fortify a place as hard as you want…I’ve got 2 words for ya..”Maginot Line”. I was at the sweeney siege, and that was why we told Ed Brown to go to hell. the man was unstable to begin with, but when he actually invited a fed siege? epic levels of stupid. and then he didn’t check up on all the people who showed up to “help” and half of them turned out to be feds. bunkerville was a bit better run but had the same problems. the malheur standoff was a clusterfuck from before it even started…anyone who couldn’t see that was blind and stupid. and now it turns out about 1/3 of the people there were feds! are we seeing a pattern here? how long before we give up this little tactic? sure, it gives us some headlines, but…leading by bleeding isn’t how we should be getting headlines.

    like WC says…stand up fights and hiding out in the back 40 are fantasies. but an effective, long-range campaign, fought part-time and blending in the rest of it..that’s a proven strategy. ask the IRA how that worked out for them…and they had a lot fewer people and a lot less guns in a much smaller area.

    there are a lot of situations where the militias could have proven themselves too. remember after Katrina, when Blackwater sent guys down to do traffic control and secure areas against looters, and everyone went batshit? I was one of the guys telling the militia to STFU. that was OUR job..and we BLEW it! the militias in that area stayed hunkered in their holes, didn’t show up ready to help at the local PD or fire station, and someone else filled the hole that should have been ours! we were too busy playing guerilla-in-the-woods and we couldn’t be bothered with our original function because it wasn’t “sexy” enough..community defense.

  16. Howard Dennard says:

    Lots of people will fall for the couch Rambo. I have a neighbor that is one, thinks that his rigged out .22LR will go thru 2 inches of plywood at a 1000 yds. Won’t listen to me. (20 years military, 2 tours Vietnam, born and raised in the swamps and piney woods of north Fl. and Al.) He has no military or even hunting experience, can’t get him to go to the range with me.
    These are the people new comers must stay away from. I believe they are worst than the “militias” or other groups.

  17. Judy says:

    Thank-you! I’ve been mentioning this for years. I hope everyone will listen to you better than they listen to me. The skills that keep our agrarian ancestors alive, are what is going to keep us and our loved ones alive.

    Do you know how to grow a garden? Preserved what you grew? Safely keep your backside warm and cooked what you grew? Can you manufacture and repair your tools, clothing, bedding or housing? Can you recognize and use the plants that are growing in the wild around you? What do you know about animal husbandry? What do you know about butchering and preserving your animals?

    Defense is only part of the picture and if you can’t do the rest, you quickly become part of the problem.

  18. Sanders says:

    If you don’t have fresh, clean water, then everything else is pretty much a moot point. Water is a little more common in some areas than in others, but is it clean? Groundwater is about your best bet for clean water.

    You can get 12 volt portable pumps from environmental sampling or water well supply stores. Find out what the average depth to water is around your area and get twice as much tubing for it. One man can drop one of those little pumps down a well and get fresh water. When you live in an arid climate like I do, it is something to keep in mind. Used to be that all you had to do was look for windmills, but lots of ranchers are going to solar pumps, so those windmills are not as common as they were.

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