In Alabama? ALABAMA???

Have you noticed there sure are a lot of people pushing infringements on states’ second amendment rights lately?

Well in Birmingham, AL, gun control advocates and legislators held a press conference on Monday to announce an oncoming assault to the right to keep and bear arms.
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-Boots

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36 Responses to In Alabama? ALABAMA???

  1. Michael says:

    What part of “THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”don’t these mother fuckers understand.

  2. THAT LIST!!!!!! Pure-D Marxist bullshit.

  3. Rooster says:

    Ha ha. That shit ain’t going nowhere. That shit passing in Alabama has about as good a chance as me hooking up with Marilyn Monroe. Ain’t gonna happen.

  4. crazyeighter says:

    All right, who let the Asshat-chusan into Alabama?

    Incurable optimist though; you couldn’t get this passed in New Jersey or California.

  5. Jesse Bogan says:

    I smell Bloomboig here someplace…

    • Heathen says:

      Exactly, little Mikey’s wish list word for word . The Outcast Voters League,must be one of his latest astro-turf organizations.

  6. Boots says:

    Q: Which law would’ve prevented the stray round from killing the 10 year old?
    A: None.
    ————————–
    The ‘transfer station’ shit can’t be implemented on dealers. ATF R&R requires a dealer to transfer a firearm face-to-face to the F4473 buyer. Private person-to-person sales will be forced to use the transfer station.

    If they make point-of-sale the source for gun registration, the per ATF R&R, gun buyers can buy in any contiguous state by showing ID as that contiguous state requires (hunting license, carry permit, etc). If they mandate all guns you own or bring into state have to be registered your choices are comply or not.

    History>Registration leads to confiscation>CA did it. Years after they approved (I forget which rifle) as legit, they changed their minds and gave people “x” time to turn them in or face criminal charges and confiscation.

    • crazyeighter says:


      History>Registration leads to confiscation>CA did it. Years after they approved (I forget which rifle) as legit, they changed their minds and gave people “x” time to turn them in or face criminal charges and confiscation.

      IIRC, it was the AK-mag variant of the SKS. Also, NYC pulled pretty much the same stunt after registration,

  7. Jbone says:

    You know that old saying “You can shit in one hand and want in the other…”

  8. Free Citizen says:

    They can pass all the laws they want. People have to abide by them don’t they? Just don’t comply.

    • crazyeighter says:

      Roger that. If elected (and appointed) officials from the President to your city mayor are deciding which laws they’re going to enforce and obey, I”m taking the same option.

  9. Sedition says:

    I live close enough to Alabama to know that a WHOLE lot of rednecks would ummmm…take issue with anyone trying to pass that shit.

  10. Sunny says:

    As commenters above have said, this won’t fly in Alabama – YET. They will keep trying this shit till they have enough fascists in the legislature to pass something. The end goal in all states is to take every gun everywhere.

    If Mike Vanderboegh was still alive, he would be on this in a heartbeat. I still miss him….
    sunny

  11. singlestack says:

    Yep, Alabama. This doesn’t surprise me a bit. They have some fucked up laws there, like “duty to retreat”

  12. NobodyCanuck says:

    Classic Alinsky/Progressive tactics, push for the most totalitarian rules and then agree to some watered down version to get a foothold. From there they go after the rest. These assholes won’t stop until they control everything, and they are not afraid to continue to push from every angle. They are far more organized than most would believe. You can’t count on Trump to counter them everywhere, he can’t do it alone, he needs everyone of his voters to continue to push back.

    • Elmo says:

      You’re exactly correct. Here’s how it works in California-
      The legislature will pass 10-15 new gun laws and send them to Moonbeam to sign at the end of the year (all of which are authored and co-sponsored by urban Democrats). Moonbeam signs most of them, and the ones he doesn’t sign he gives a flowery reason for not signing, in order to ‘look reasonable’. The next year those same bills are back on his desk whereupon he then signs them, along with a few new ones, and the process starts all over again. And being a one party state this won’t end soon, even after Moonbeam is termed out (courtesy Democrats being elected by illegals voting through motor-voter registration and outright voter fraud).
      Several of the recent bills were gutted and amended. Bills were taken that had already passed through committee and were stripped, made into restrictive gun laws and passed within weeks, with no opportunity for public input. They were signed by Moonbeam on a Friday afternoon, after which he skipped town and went on vacation out of the country. And of course the story was hidden by the press, who worship at the altar of Big Government.
      The lesson here is for people in Free States to pay attention, keep informed by joining a local gun rights organization and NEVER vote for a Democrat. And if your state has a part time legislature fight to keep it that way. It’s the full time professional politicians that have destroyed California.

  13. Dragon says:

    They are trying to get it passed, because there is precedent of a law that does exactly that withstanding judicial scrutinty.

    Its called New York.

    Kenny…you saw my NY Permit (now defunct since I’m no longer a resident of NY) that listed all the handguns I owned up to the point where I left the state.

    Lets look at the proposal from Alabama:

    1) Mandatory gun registration- owner has registration card that lists all weapons

    — Thats exactly what NY does. Been doing that since the Sullivan Act was passed into law in 1911.

    2) No transfers unless done through a registration office

    — Thats exactly what NY does. Been doing that since the Sullivan Act was passed into law in 1911.

    3) New purchases must be picked up at registration office

    — In NY, new purchases must be approved by the licensing authority (sheriff or county judge) for new purchases, for private sales a FFL is the intermediary where the seller surrenders the gun to the FFL, the FFL send paperwork to the sheriff, the sheriff tells the buyer that he can pay the seller, the buyer then gets the intent to transfer slip from the FFL, takes it to sheriff. Sheriff then puts new firearm on the ID card, gives buyer the official letterhead that says its OK for him to pick the gun up. Buyer then goes to FFL, DOES THE 4473 BACKGROUND CHECK, and if he passes the NICS, he can take the gun home.

    The rest are not something that NY does, with the exception of the last point, buying ammo only for calibers of guns listed on the ID Card. NY has been doing that since 1968 when the GCA passed on the Federal level.

    What these jackwagons fail to realize is that anyone can buy reloading components, have all the shit delivered to your door, and reload as much as they want. But, like someone already said, they are just throwing all the shit against the wall, seeing what sticks, and going with that.

    • Wirecutter says:

      California tactics.

    • Elmo says:

      “…anyone can buy reloading components, have all the shit delivered to your door.”

      “Ammunition components are restricted from sale to Massachusetts.” So says Bass Pro.
      Stock up now. This will be the grabber’s next push.

  14. Nemo says:

    Sounds like a whole bunch of Alabama lawmakers will be loosing their jobs come the next election should this even make its way out of committee. In the meantime new NH carry law does away with requiring a license for anyone to carry concealed.

  15. AlabamaLiving says:

    This area is in Jefferson County (ironic isn’t it). The same county that had the largest bankruptcy in the nation 5 years ago. You can guessimate who runs the city of Birmingham. Homicides have always been high in this county. It appears to be another Dr. Feelgood moment by the righteous.

    http://www.bhamwiki.com/w/List_of_Birmingham_homicides_in_2016

    • Orangejello says:

      The people who run Birmingham are pretty much the same as those who run Detroit, with slightly less catastrophic results. Democrats. Birmingham does not represent the state.

  16. John Deaux says:

    I lived in Al for 10 years in 3 different counties, lots of great folks in that state but there are some strange laws, ie; open carry ok but concealed carry permit required for a hand gun in a vehicle unless unloaded and locked away. Also although it’s a shall issue state some county sheriffs, who control who gets a permit, are not pro 2nd ammendment and give you lots of unnecessary bullshit. You can show them the law and it’s like, naw that’s not what it means. ????
    I heard the constitutional carry bill is up again, hopefully the vote goes to the people this time and joins Mississippi, that way we can shame our sold out politicians in La to get with the times.
    One can hope….

  17. Garry says:

    Not going to happen in Alabama. Tennessee is a little more onerous on its gun owners. In Alabama I can (and did) apply on line for a concealed carry permit. Cost was a little over 50 bucks for a 5 year permit. It took a week to process. I looked into what that same permit would cost in Tennessee: a mandatory week long training course paid out of my pocket and 50 bucks a year for the permit. Liberals can huff and puff all they want, but in Alabama the po po really do appreciate and encourage an armed citizenry.

    • Wirecutter says:

      Um, in Tennessee it’s an 8 hour course and $130 the first time around and $30 to renew for residents.

      • Garry says:

        My bad on the duration of the course. I have a home in both states and did a quick look at cc requirements in each. The cost struck me first and I quickly noted that there was a training requirement (but didn’t pay that much attention to the detail).

        While reciprocity (big word) exists between these states, if I list my primary address as being in TN or acquire a TN drivers license then I’m going to have to spring for the TN CC permit and course.

        BTW, one of your readers commented on the cost ($50 for 5 years). They can check out the Madison County Sheriffs site at: https://madisonal.permitium.com/ccw/start

        Also, in Alabama if you have the CC permit then you can buy a weapon without another background check/wait.

        Thanks for info on the course.

    • John Deaux says:

      What county did you get a permit in that you paid 10 a year, I have never paid less than 20 or 100 for the 5 year permit

  18. Boots says:

    NobodyCanuck (above) was right:

    “Classic Alinsky/Progressive tactics, push for the most totalitarian rules and then agree to some watered down version to get a foothold.” I didn’t read Rules For Radicals, but I do read the web news sites showing riots and threats against Trump as a means to turn the public against him. So I say the AL gun owners should learn from that.

    They should hold massive statewide rallies and threaten violence if a single point of the law is passed. They should hold rallies at the homes of legislators who might support the bill. They should hang those legislators in effigy and then set fire to the hanging effigy. They should COVER Alabama with signs and posters that both oppose the gun laws (listing the reasons why) and threaten violence and all manner of bad things to come should the law be passed.

    Why should the gun owners do this? Because the proposed gun laws are a declaration of war against gun owners, against the 2nd Amd, the constitution. It’s an act of war by globalist aligned persons within the state govt who seek to impose their vision of utopia that’s in reality an unarmed people who can be ruthlessly ruled over. Since the bill is both declaration and act of war, gun owners MUST, not should, they must respond in kind. Eye for eye, tooth for tooth. They declare war, then we declare war.

    Targeting the homes of anti-gun legislators is a very important part of the overall strategy. Why? Because they need to be absolutely, very afraid for their safety and the safety of their families. That’s wrong, some may say. No, it’s right. They don’t give a rip about the safety of your family, the 2nd Amd, or due process. They boldly march on you proclaiming they will disarm you. CONCORD. LEXINGTON. Right there in Alabama.

    They need to feel push back. Wrath. And fear. The kind that makes your knees buckle, bowels loosen, and brings a cold sweat. Right now they laugh at the gun owners. It’s time to laugh back and make them afraid. Very afraid. Because it really is war. Cultural war. And cultural wars bring down civilizations. The stakes are high in Alabama. If a single proposal passes the other proposals will be brought back again and again until they pass. Gun owners MUST go on an aggressive offensive path instead of doing what they USUALLY do. Sit back, bitch, and open another beer while letting 10% of the gun owning community do 100% of the fighting.

    I don’t know offhand the exact words to be used to issue the threats; perhaps “If this Hitleresque, dictator like law is passed the streets, rightfully angry gun owners will make the Watts riots look like kindergarten recess. Cities will burn. Businesses will be burned. Everything will be burned, smashed, looted, and destroyed. Blood may well flow in the streets. And we’re willing to go that far to stop the tyrannical takeover of America right here in our beloved state of Alabama. We will not let the communists like (names here) stage a coup d’etat in our state. We will fight with every means at hand, including the guns they want to ban, to stop them”

  19. Boots says:

    Hmmmm….. Maybe “…gun owners will be bloody enraged if this passes. We cannot say for certain that violence will not happen. We cannot say for certain that cities won’t burn, businesses be smashed, looted, and destroyed. We cannot say for certain that legislators who agree to this brutal dictatorial assault on the constitution won’t be personally targeted for violence, or that their homes won’t be targeted for burning, or their families won’t be targeted for retribution because of what their communist legislator parents did”.

    Yeah. That’s probably a much better tact than promising violence. Because the promised violence is very unlikely to happen (at least on the scale needed to send a message) and when it doesn’t happen legislators will know the gun owners are paper tigers, and they’ll ram even more offensive gun laws down the people’s throats and up their rectums.

  20. Boots says:

    Aha! California, of all places, proves my point that legislators need to be scared shitless and put in fear of their lives and the lives of their family members. Hell, that’s exactly what the Sons of Liberty did and their very vocal and very visible efforts to demonize their oppressors worked, and created support for the war for independence. WE need to start being more aggressive, where appropriate, against those who repeat Concord and Lexington all over again.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/27/gun-rights-advocates-can-publish-lawmakers-addresses-judge-rules.html

    Gun rights advocates can publish lawmakers’ addresses, judge rules
    Published February 27, 2017 Associated Press

    Excerpt below. Read it all at the site above. *** below by Boots.

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. – Gun owners’ rights advocates are free to publish the home addresses and telephone numbers of California state lawmakers who voted for firearms restrictions, a federal judge decided Monday. It is the second time in a week that judges decided that California lawmakers went too far in protecting the private information of public figures.

    U.S. Chief District Judge Lawrence O’Neill of Fresno issued a preliminary injunction Monday blocking a state law that lets public officials demand that their private information be removed from the internet if they fear for their safety or the safety of their families.

    O’Neill ruled that the state law is too broad and violates the advocates’ free speech rights. Publishing the lawmakers’ personal information “is a form of political protest,” he said in a 38-page opinion.

    The bloggers were protesting a law that requires the state to collect the personal information of those who buy firearms and ammunition in California. When viewed in that context, the judge decided, “the legislators’ personal information becomes a matter of public concern.”

    A California blogger who goes by the pseudonym “Doe Publius” and writes under the name “The Real Write Winger” posted the identifying information for 40 state lawmakers after Governor Jerry Brown signed several gun control bills into law in July 2016. It was later republished by another blogger.

    ***”These tyrants are no longer going to be insulated from us,” he wrote. “These are the people who voted to send you to prison if you exercise your rights and liberties” as a gun owner.***

    At least six state senators reported receiving threatening phone calls or social media messages that appeared to have been prompted by the blog entry, according to court documents.

    Legislative Counsel Diane Boyer-Vine soon demanded, on behalf of lawmakers, that two advocates remove the information from their websites.

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