WY wolves stripped of protective status

A federal appeals court ruling stripped wolves of their protections in Wyoming on Friday, which could allow them to be shot on sight.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit sided in favor of Wyoming’s wolf management plan, which treats the animals as vermin. The court’s decision overturned a lower-court ruling that sided with conservationists who fought a state law that allowed the unlimited slaughter of wolves in a “predator zone that extended through most of the state,” the environmental groups said.
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32 Responses to WY wolves stripped of protective status

  1. Cavguy says:

    Says I have to pay $ to see more? Not paying to that rag

  2. RustyGunner says:

    The comments. Just, wow.

  3. Kris says:

    So long, ‘large coyotes!’

  4. Lazy larry says:

    They should capture the excess wolves drive them to the ghettos, turn me loose and watch the fun begin. Yeeee hawwww….

  5. SemperFi, 0321 says:

    We had them listed as varmints 2 yrs ago, a few friends went and shot some, and just when I was ready to go wolf hunting, they re-listed them again, thanks to the wolf huggers. This time I’m going out an get myself a few before they reverse the decision again. Those things are like woodland piranhas, they just kill their way thru the country.
    Was looking at 70 gr. Barnes TSX for my AR15, or use my M-14 with a 150 gr. Should do a good job either way.

    • Arc says:

      So it has nothing to do with cattle at all, you just want to take the old guns for a spin and kill something for the enjoyment. Finally, at least someone is honest one the subject >.>

      State run population programs and tags seems to work well enough for every other species… I don’t get why it can’t be applied here, then everyone wins.

      -another 03

      • Wirecutter says:

        Except predators aren’t like every other species. We’re not talking deer here.
        I suspect wolves are like coyotes in that the more pressure they have on them the larger the litter sizes.

        • James says:

          Exactly,the more you kill,the more they breed.Hence,get you need to protect your livestock ect.(with a little effort can be done without kills).

          In the East we have coywolves(no coyotes unless you brought em here,Kenny?!)and are protected species on my dads property.

          That said,he was all for deer/bird hunting as he knew it made the difference for some whether family eats well due to food or living as a guide.The same with snowmobiles,he hates em but let the trails far away from house be as he realizes again,folks make a living with em and brought in money to local economy.

          Locals and out of staters all respected this arrangement and didn’t buzz the home with snowmobiles or hunting.

      • SemperFi, 0321 says:

        I live 40 miles from Yellowstone NP, I think they’re beautiful animals, but also can’t wait to see them all gone again. I have more respect for the grizzlies which also keep me on my toes constantly.
        They kill anything they can. 2 of my friends have had pet dogs killed in the front yard by wolves, usually a lone male wandering in search of his own territory. Kenny has seen pics of the huge tracks I find here.
        I backpacked thru Yellowstone NP 2 summers ago, it’s nothing but animal skeletons everywhere, deer and elk bones beyond belief. And no live animals to be seen hardly.

        http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/25/wolf-pack-kills-19-wyoming-elk-in-one-night.html

  6. California southpaw says:

    Man, those comments. Blah blah blah from Mom’s basement. They probably train on Hot Pockets and Mountain Dew 24/7.
    Oh but wolves have evolved. They’re just like Grandpappy’s Lab now. They’re majestic. They’ve evolved all right. Like the Alaska comment said that they hunt the shit out of them and they still thrive. And they will eat you, tree huggers included.

  7. Soapweed says:

    O dwellers of the bee hives….. I wish farmers/ranchers weren’t such a sorry bunch of corporate ass kissers. We should be like the parts of the body arguing about which part of the body is the boss. We should slam shut on food production for a time ,like the asshole in the example, and show folks not to mess with us. But no, we wear our pink pussy-hats and always have……….

  8. cato1776 says:

    They do make cool hats.
    Better than the pussy hats they wear in Washington.

  9. MR says:

    The comments are humorous, Wyoming men have been sissys for years now…….. that shows you again how out of touch liberal wieners are. That is some rough country and the idiots commenting wouldn’t make a pimple on a Wyoming ranchers ass……

    And just to be clear, Kevin Costner was unavailable for comment.

    • SemperFi, 0321 says:

      A lot of Wyoming men are just that, they’ve let the wolf and tree huggers steamroll right over them and not say a fukn word. I live in a former cattle and logging town, many so called tough guys here are wimps, the USFS, BLM and environazis just do whatever they want, and sure, folks grumble some, but none of them are willing to stand and fight against all the new regs. They’re like everyone else across the country today, brainwashed and spineless. They don’t see that they’re being pushed aside by the commie policies until they’re completely locked out of the forests and desert, and by then it’s too late.

  10. Rob says:

    “Environmentalists” live in cities.

    ‘Nuff said.

  11. Arc says:

    Before all the greedy ranchers crawl out of the woodwork while crying for extinction, know that only Idaho, Wisconsin, and Montana have any room on this subject, MAYBE, Minnesota.

    Wyoming cattle losses to wolves are around 18% of all predator losses, and compared to total losses nationally for all causes of death, ~.2-.3%. Statistically insignificant. Wolves were 3.7% of national predator losses at 8,100 head of cattle for 2010 and damn, dare I say theft by man clocked in at 15,100 – 0.4%, Poisoning clocks in at 36,000 or 0.9% of losses, Respiratory issues, 1,055,000, 23% Digestive issues (all that nasty corn) 505,000 13.4%, Lameness, Mastitis, other diseases, all claimed absurdly more cattle than, again, STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT wolves.

    Rather than support management, ranchers would rather demonize anything that gets in the way of profits and purge it from the earth. For those that bitch about how much a fence costs, here are some alternatives

    http://www.denverpost.com/2016/06/04/professor-developing-a-cattle-monitoring-robot/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OURVp5nj5UA

    Working dogs, predator deterrent alarms, or damn, just go out on an ATV once in a blue moon rather than every six months.

    I think the truth of the matter here is money, greed, profits, that and some people enjoy killing animals for fun because paper targets get old. Rather than admit it, they try and hide behind a self-righteous cause.

    I personally do not buy red meat products anymore in boycott of all the calls for wiping wolves out of the lower 48. Once I’m raising my own rabbits, no more white meat either. The only exception is the local meat market and a grass fed farm a few miles from me.

    Oh, I would gladly pay even double the price for “predator friendly” meat products, but damn, that shit isn’t sold out in the sticks, only in the big cities with all the yuppie stores.

    Source
    http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/usda/current/CattDeath/CattDeath-05-12-2011.pdf

    • foodgrower says:

      Not that I have a dog in this fight one way or the other in regards to the wolves but maybe you should drag your ass out to a working ranch for oh say about two weeks during calving season and get a taste of what it’s really like when you’re trying to hold your overall calf mortality to less than 3% and you’re on your knees in the mud and shit, in the middle of the night, giving a breech pulled calf mouth to mouth in an attempt to save it and dealing with about a hundred or so other things that can go wrong and screw your production up for the entire year. After you do this and enjoy the … (I won’t bother to compile a list of all the things you’ll experience) you just might lose some of that attitude you so easily share with us in your third through sixth paragraphs above.

      As far as fences go, I have never found a fence that will keep dogs, yotes or wolves out. This is totally discounting the “other or unknown” predators, some of which fly. Now I know that you disdain the cost to build a fence but A, when they are ineffective at doing what needs to be done, and B, when you factor in the cost to fence substantial acreages putting up an ineffective fence, at an astronomical cost, just to please your sense of justice for a particular animal, why old son, you’re just tilting at windwmills.

      Beyond that, while you may be glad to pay “even double” for ‘predator friendly’ meat, you’re one out of, oh say, 100 million that feels that way. Every single person I know bitches about the high price of beef and is looking for the best deal they can find.

      Also, and though I’ll admit I didn’t take time to read all your links, a lot of the studies aren’t worth the paper they’re written on by people who really don’t understand what they are writing about and who have an agenda they want to support and will write anything to substantiate their view.

      I’ll just reference one report by the USDA – Cattle and calves Predator death loss 2010. Jump down to page 28 of the report and you find this little gem

      From 1991 to 2010, coyotes, dogs, and mountain lions accounted for the highest
      individual percentages of predator death loss for cattle on all operations.
      In 2010, coyotes were responsible for about one-third of predator losses

      The single largest cause in the “all other predators” category was unknown predators

      When you jump down to unknown predators you find listed the following –

      Bears, bobcats or lynx (except in 2010) , foxes, wolves, ravens, eagles, vultures, other predators, and unknown predators.

      In all the years I’ve been around cattle, sometimes in some pretty remote country and/or mountainous regions I’ve only seen three kills I would attribute to a bear. Never seen one due to a bobcat and only a couple I could attribute to a lynx. Never one to a fox, and most of the ‘bird kills’ were on sick animals that most likely were already dead. Even if we give them a big chunk of the kill percentage (which my first hand experience just doesn’t support) that still leaves a huge percentage belonging to those “unknown predators”.

      Here’s the fly in the ointment, if the predator in the study is unknown, how do you determine what is doing the majority of the predator loss kills?

      When drivel like this is released and fails to stand up to any kind of close examination, why should any of the study/reports be taken with anything more than a grain of salt?

      Now if you are really concerned about old mother nature and all of her life forms I’ve got some news for you. I’ve found the biggest threat out there and it’s people like you who use electricity, drive vehicles on roads, survive through resource extraction and use computers to type aggressive messages on the internet about how everybody is destroying mother gaia. If you really, really care that much, just off yourself and I’ll have a lot more respect for your opinion because you have then stepped up to the plate and removed your impact from the equation.

      Till then, you’re just bloviating to make yourself feel good.

      foodgrower

      • lineman says:

        Thank you foodgrower and well said…Here’s somebody from back east yapping about what we should do out here in the West…Oh the things I could say but I just don’t have the time to try and reason with fucking morons…

    • rayvet says:

      Gee Arc, you sound a little “anti profit” in your rant/screed above. Typical. So your gonna live off rabbits and everyone else should to so they could “boycott” the man and not contribute to his overzealous, greediness huh? Eye roll and face palm here. Your numbers, even if correct, show that your definition of “insignificant” is likely HUGELY different than if you were the farmer suffering those losses. Tell you what, if you’re so far removed from “nature” that you don’t realize that man, as the apex predator, has the right, necessity and instinct to remove other animals that pose a problem for us, then your not a person that should be weighing in on this situation. You can stick with raising and eating your rabbits while the real men produce food for the remainder of the country, and kill anything that prevents that from happening for a profit. In the mean time, if the “men” of this country find enjoyment and pleasure out of doing a instinctive activity (that would be hunting) let them be. As long as it’s being done legally and humanely then what’s your problem?

  12. bikermailman says:

    You told me to read the comments, ya bastard. My IQ went down five points in 2.5 minutes.

  13. vermin? says:

    I love wolves!
    I don’t think they’re vermin, I think they’re predators.
    I have great respect for such awesome predators.
    That’s why I enjoy predator hunting so much!
    It’s all about respect.

  14. idaho bob says:

    It’s about damned time!

    Stinking Canadian timber wolves were never a part of that ecosystem. The damned things cause more damage to the deer and elk population than has ever been done.

    Bob

  15. Andrew says:

    The Russians have a cute phrase, “Throw the baby from the troika.”

    Basically, when travelling and set upon by wolves, toss out the weak and replaceable.

    Says all you need to know about cute fuzzy wuzzy little wolvies….

  16. Paul J says:

    Go to Northern Minnesota. My friends deer hunt and find NO deer tracks and plenty of the wolf tracks. Same for trail cams.
    We had sensible wolf season for shooting and trapping in WI a few years ago No shortage of wolves in the northern part of the state. Cattle predation is a problem.
    Deer are scarce here and the state pretends the wolves aren’t the problem. Agree with other commenters who do not live with the problem.

  17. fjord says:

    At the moment, my daughter is working on a cattle/horse ranch in NV. Most of her job entails fixing fence because the wild donkeys and horses are constantly wrecking them. You know, that other scourge of the habitat that is ‘protected’ by the tree huggers, that just love them some non native invasive species that have more rights than the natives.

    • Wirecutter says:

      In my opinion about the only thing that BLM has done right is to round up those horses and donkeys and sell them to ranchers that want cheap stock.

  18. The comment that really got me was the one blaming the “electoral college”. WTF??

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