OKC cops shoot and kill deaf man

Oklahoma City police officers who fatally shot a man approaching with a metal pipe apparently did not hear witnesses yelling that the man was deaf, according to authorities.

Magdiel Sanchez wasn’t listening to the officers’ commands before he was shot with a gun and a Taser on Tuesday night, but bystanders were yelling “he can’t hear you” before the officers fired, according to Capt. Bo Mathews. The officers did not hear them.

Sanchez, who was 35, died at the scene. The officer who fired the gun has been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation.
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25 Responses to OKC cops shoot and kill deaf man

  1. Sarthurk says:

    This idiot should have been known to the local cops, if in fact he wandered around town.

    This does, beg the question, “Who is really deaf and dumb?”.

  2. Wirecutter says:

    What makes him an idiot? He was sitting on his own porch minding his own business.

    • Sarthurk says:

      The article states that he was “approaching” officers. That doesn’t sound like sittin’ on the porch. Pardon me if I’m wrong, but that’s what I interpreted.

  3. Chris Mallory says:

    Because for some reason these fine government employees were unable to move tactically and put a patrol car between themselves and a slow moving deaf man holding a pipe. Never know, it might have been one of those automatic slam-fire pipe guns these guys were lucky to make it home at the end of shift.

    • POd American says:

      Thank god he made it home safe from his shift, the rest of us would be in jail. The OKC PD is a culture of lazy and stupid thugs.

  4. Highlander says:

    With a metal pipe in his hands….approaching the officers….I’m not thinking that his being deaf had anything to do with it.

    • Winston Smith says:

      Only for non cop haters.

      Come at me with a pipe and I don’t care who the fuck it is; i’ll shoot if I think I need to.

      • JeremyR says:

        Attitude. Was he walking in a threatening manner? If he was simply carrying his dog stick, and that is what it was, he was no threat. Then this become murder.

  5. Woody says:

    Lots of fails here. The deaf guy was apparently facing the officers and should have seen the guns pointed his direction. Cops having tunnel vision and not hearing that the guy was deaf, and the fact one had a taser out and the other just blindly shooting after the taser was deployed.

    • Wirecutter says:

      The story doesn’t give a time the incident happened but it does say ‘Tuesday night’. If it happened after dark and he was sitting on the porch with the light on, he very well may not have seen the cops, much less their guns.

  6. Okie says:

    My question is; was he (the decedent) aggressively closing ground toward the officers? At least one of them thought a taser was the appropriate level of force.
    How convenient no body cameras were employed at the time….

  7. Robert says:

    Poor guy.

    Not much info in the article.

    Tasing someone is the universal non-verbal sign for “stop approaching me”.

  8. 15Fixer says:

    I wish … The spineless slugs that make ‘laws’ would pass a law that requires cops to serve 6 months in prison for malfunctioning body cameras; after any officer -involved shooting the firing officer(s) get blood tests to check for any and all drugs, ESPECIALLY steroids; and they no longer get a few days off to get their story straight. They make their statements immediately after the incident, just like us non-cop people. Finally, they also sit in JAIL pending the results of an Independent Agency (preferably from out of state, credible agency, like maybe the Texas Rangers). Just a thought or three.

  9. DTG says:

    My questions are:

    – How close was the deaf man to the cops when they opened fire – first with the taser and next with the pistol? (Tueller Rule – 21 feet)
    – Was he aggressively moving toward the cops (pipe raised for a strike) or just walking? (Imminent threat resulting in serious bodily harm)
    – Was the deaf man walking erratically, indicated some sort of intoxication or physical disability, or in a straight line directly at the cops? (Straight line possible Indication of significant threat)
    – Did the cops warn the deaf man to stop until he was inside of Tueller Rule range? (Indication of employment of deadly force as last resort)
    – With a taser deployed (less than lethal force) what did the deaf man do that required more than less than lethal force? (Escalation of response requiring the use of deadly force)
    – If at night, and others could verbally warn the cops that, “He can’t hear you!,” how far away were the people warning the cops? (It appears that it was easy to see the entire situation from non-involved persons.)

    Lot of things not answered in the article, and on its face, it paints the cop who unloaded as a trigger happy moron.

    However, withholding judgment as too many facts are unavailable.

    • 15Fixer says:

      It was dark … How dark is a question to be asked, followed by “Were the cops shining their high-intensity flashlights in the deaf guy’s eyes????

  10. Sanders says:

    It was obviously a clear case of, “Kontempt of Kop”, which is a crime so heinous, it is punishable by summary execution in the field.

  11. James.458 says:

    I am amazed at the lack of training for cops,not passing any judgment on this without a lot more info.That said,cops need more training,most only have to qualify once a year with a firearm,that is crazy given their job.They also need more mental health folks on call,sometimes the mentally ill a immediate danger to others and get shot,many calls though for ambulances for mentally ill also have cops arriving and though not a immediate danger engage person till said person snaps and then shot.One case a few years back person was in cellar/block the door and person there till help could have arrived to deal with it,cops warned guy had issues,they went in cellar and when threatened shot guy,no need to go in said cellar as no one else there,just nuts(pun intended).We have swat/hrt ect.,cops need a mental health team when no immediate danger to others to try and defuse situation.I personally would never call a ambulance if I had a friend having a meltdown,would do whatever it takes to get em to a hospital meself.

    • 15Fixer says:

      Instead of more training (you can train a monkey to flip burgers) how about a minimum thresh-hold for IQ, and requiring common sense and critical-thinking skills instead of a “first reaction is to shoot” mentality.

  12. Hillbilly says:

    Was he in overalls that said “Browns Plumbing” ?

  13. JustJJ says:

    This was just bad all around, on all sides. The biggest fail I see is the 2nd cop knee-jerking a bullet into the mentally challenged dude instead of waiting to see if the Taser was sufficient to stop the perceived threat. Not to mention that if his dad hadn’t hit and run, his son would still be alive.

  14. Dan says:

    This was probably a “legal” shoot according to the law. That isn’t the issue. The issue is the penchant cops have to “go to guns” early, often and always. They have been brainwashed with the “go home at the end of your shift NO MATTER WHAT” mantra that EVERY encounter with ANYONE not pinned to a badge is ALWAYS a potential deadly force event. And when you think that way that is exactly what happens. LEO escalate to deadly force with virtually NO provocation, NO reason and NO effort to ever attempt alternative solutions. The problem is the training, the mindset and the culture of LEO…the US vs THEM mentality. The penchant to seek out and hire bully’s an sociopahs as armed enforcers for the political class doesn’t help either.

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