U.S. Special Operators Want a Tiny Assault Rifle

U.S. special operators are in the market for a tiny assault rifle. Finding a weapon that meets the proposed requirements could be difficult, but not impossible. In fact, it actually looks like a gun company has already shown one to the Pentagon.
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14 Responses to U.S. Special Operators Want a Tiny Assault Rifle

  1. censusdesignatedplace says:

    Get’em a noisy cricket.

  2. crazyeighter says:

    –“Personal Defense Weapon–PDW “Perhaps us gunnies should pre-empt that term for our everyday carry, much like the gungrabbers invented/pre-empted “Assault Weapon” for our Modern Sporting Rifles.

    • Plankton67 says:

      That is a damn good idea. I like it due to its simplicity, its direct descriptive function. Own the language, own the conversation, prevail in any debate.

    • Jeff C. in NC says:

      But they have been using the MP5 for years

      • M. Sage says:

        Body armor is becoming more and more common, which is rendering 9mm less and less useful for soldiers. A short carbine in .300 Blackout can do everything the MP5 did just as well, be better against body armor and all you have to do is swap magazines to supersonic ammo to have something that’s capable past 200 yards. The MP5SD was really only good to about 50 yards.

        The Army just stupidly put out a contract for 9mm SMGs for some reason. Dunno why they went that route instead of handing out MP7s.

  3. Johno says:

    Um, didn’t Winchester do this nearly 80 years ago? It was called a .30 M1 Carbine.

    • M. Sage says:

      What’s old is new again.

      • Stretch says:

        What I was gonna say! And they can get Automag pistols to fire the same ammo. Or a Ruger Blackhawk for that John Wayne look.

    • Critter says:

      I remember thinking when I saw the specs for 300 BLK that they’ve recreated 30 carbine.

      • M. Sage says:

        Yeah, kinda sorta.

        You want to have your mind blown, look up 5.7mm Johnson, which was a conversion for the Carbine.

        Not to mention Melvin Johnson and Eugene Stoner knew each other, and one influenced the other. Check out the bolt lug design on a M1941.

  4. somedude says:

    something tells me they want guns for urban CQB. this little bit along with all the “drills” in urban areas. like a Ranger buddy said, train how you fight.

    • singlestack says:

      Yeah, it’s like they’re planning a campaign of house-to-house raids and expecting heavy resistance or something.

  5. Bad_Brad says:

    I have some personal knowledge of this. They originally preferred it chambered in 7.62 by 39.

  6. Gator says:

    Always thought it would be fun to build a honey badger type gun, just without the select fire option, obviously. 2 tax stamps for one gun gets expensive, though. Ask me how i know…

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