I’m surprised she even found her gun in her purse

MILWAUKEE — Police have charged a man who was shot Wednesday outside Milwaukee Police Headquarters.
Investigators determined the woman who shot the man was acting in self-defense.


And the Money Quote, considering she was right in front of the police station:
“I’m screaming for help at the top of my lungs. No one would help me. I was scared. I felt like my life was in danger,” she said.

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8 Responses to I’m surprised she even found her gun in her purse

  1. nonncom says:

    Cops don’t move at 1200 feet per second….

  2. Steve says:

    Where is that court ruling that says police have no obligation to protect citizens…….I had it right here….


    • Plankton67 says:

      Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1, 4 (D.C. 1981) is the cite to look up and behold the horror that relying upon and believing in police protection for the individual will get you…

      “Appellants Carolyn Warren, Miriam Douglas, and Joan Taliaferro in No. 79-6, and appellant Wilfred Nichol in No. 79-394 sued the District of Columbia and individual members of the Metropolitan Police Department for negligent failure to provide adequate police services. The respective trial judges held that the police were under no specific legal duty to provide protection to the individual appellants and dismissed the complaints for failure to state a claim upon which relief could be granted.”

      In the early morning hours of March 16, 1975, appellants Carolyn Warren, Joan Taliaferro, and Miriam Douglas were asleep in their rooming house at 1112 Lamont Street, N.W. Warren and Taliaferro shared a room on the third floor of the house; Douglas shared a room on the second floor with her four-year-old daughter. The women were awakened by the sound of the back door being broken down by two men later identified as Marvin Kent and James Morse. The men entered Douglas’ second floor room, where Kent forced Douglas to sodomize him and Morse raped her.

      Warren and Taliaferro heard Douglas’ screams from the floor below. Warren telephoned the police, told the officer on duty that the house was being burglarized, and requested immediate assistance. The department employee told her to remain quiet and assured her that police assistance would be dispatched promptly. Warren’s call was received at Metropolitan Police Department Headquarters at 6:23 a. m., and was recorded as a burglary in progress. At 6:26 a. m., a call was dispatched to officers on the street as a “Code 2” assignment, although calls of a crime in progress should be given priority and designated as “Code 1.” Four police cruisers responded to the broadcast; three to the Lamont Street address and one to another address to investigate a possible suspect.

      Meanwhile, Warren and Taliaferro crawled from their window onto an adjoining roof and waited for the police to arrive. While there, they saw one policeman drive through the alley behind their house and proceed to the front of the residence without stopping, leaning out the window, or getting out of the car to check the back entrance of the house. A second officer apparently knocked on the door in front of the residence, but left when he received no answer. The three officers departed the scene at 6:33 a. m., five minutes after they arrived.

      Warren and Taliaferro crawled back inside their room. They again heard Douglas’ continuing screams; again called the police; told the officer that the intruders had entered the home, and requested immediate assistance. Once again, a police officer assured them that help was on the way. This second call was received at 6:42 a. m. and recorded merely as “investigate the trouble”it was never dispatched to any police officers.

      Believing the police might be in the house, Warren and Taliaferro called down to Douglas, thereby alerting Kent to their presence. Kent and Morse then forced all three women, at knifepoint, to accompany them to Kent’s apartment. For the next fourteen hours the women were held captive, raped, robbed, beaten, forced to commit sexual acts upon each other, and made to submit to the sexual demands of Kent and Morse.

      Appellants’ claims of negligence included: the dispatcher’s failure to forward the 6:23 a. m. call with the proper degree of urgency; *3 the responding officers’ failure to follow standard police investigative procedures, specifically their failure to check the rear entrance and position themselves properly near the doors and windows to ascertain whether there was any activity inside; and the dispatcher’s failure to dispatch the 6:42 a. m. call.

      (I have no idea how to do a bloc quote here. I post this, as the topic is of utmost seriousness and American citizens need to understand how police operate and how courts have decided the issues that hopefully will never happen to them of their loved ones).

      DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services:

      “Nothing in the language of the Due Process Clause itself requires the State to protect the life, liberty, and property of its citizens against invasion by private actors,” stated Chief Justice Rehnquist for the majority, “even where such aid may be necessary to secure life, liberty, or property interests of which the government itself may not deprive the individual” without “due process of the law.”

      Castle Rock v. Gonzales:

      “a lawsuit against the town of Castle Rock for the police’s failure to respond after Jessica Gonzales tried to get the police to arrest her estranged husband Simon Gonzales for kidnapping their three daughters (ages 7, 8, and 10) while they were playing outside, in violation of a court-issued protective order. After Simon called to tell Jessica where they were at (in Denver at an amusement park), for hours she pleaded for the police to arrest Simon. But, the police failed to act before Simon showed up at the police department and started shooting inside, and with the bodies of the 3 children in the trunk of his car.”

      Here is a set of notes from a Law School on duties:

      And here is a set of flash cards if interested:

      As sickening and as heart breaking as the many outcomes of the doctrine of no affirmative duty are, ponder if it is possible to have a functioning police force if it was mandated that they had a duty to protect the individual, that any harm to the individual would be a potential criminal act by police NOT protecting? What would be the number of police that would be needed? 51% of the population? More?

      This “no duty to protect” is exactly why the 2nd Amendment is so valuable and cherished – the individual always has the option of not being a victim. This is imperfect, as children remain subject to the mercies of those around them. It is why each person must take their own duties and responsibilities to themselves and those around them (especially minors & the infirm) with utmost seriousness. The police generally exist to do the paperwork and chalk the outlines of victims. This is why “gun free zones” and other impairments on the rights of Citizens must be refused.

      Also, this makes the case:

  3. crazyeighter says:

    And the Money Quote, considering she was right in front of the police station:
    “I’m screaming for help at the top of my lungs. No one would help me. I was scared. I felt like my life was in danger,” she said.

    And with those words, she made her attorney very happy.

  4. Plankton67 says:

    This just popped up regarding the issues surrounding duty of police, specifically for the “resources officer” at Marjory Stoneman:


    Short article, Denninger lays out some very far reaching implications should some aspects stick.

  5. FaCubeItches says:

    When you need help right now, cops are only minutes away – assuming they can even be bothered….

  6. Exile1981 says:

    Years ago in high school I worked a a viseo store. A drunk guy came in and demanded the money so I hit the silent panic alarm. I told the guy i wasn’t giving him the money unless I saw ID so ge left the hatchet on the counter and went to get ID. I jumped the countrr and locked the doors behind him. He beat on the door for a good 15 minutes before driving away while I was on the line with 911.

    The cops showed up a week later asking me to sign a statement, which included a line saying I wouldn’t sue for any injuries caused by their failure to show up. My boss told them to f off.

    I got two things out of it; a knowledge that cops are not coming to help and I got a hatchet. It was a cheap one with a hollow metal tubing handle, but it was more use than the cops.

  7. lil jack says:

    “I felt like my life was in danger” is too close to the trigger-happy cops line, “I was in fear for my life” to be considered ‘cultural appropriation’. The cops should sue her.

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